Chemical Attacks and British Politics : Westminster : London UK

 

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Well, British Prime Minister David Cameron appears to have misjudged the UK internal politics of launching a military attack on the regime of President Bashar Hafez al-Assad of Syria. Since the flagrant crossing of the Obama ‘red line’ with Assad’s forces apparently launching a horrific chemical weapon attack in Damascus, Cameron has been talking about Britain acting in concert with America to take part in a limited retaliatory strike. Probably a missile strike or an air attack designed to show there are major consequences for the Assad regime if it launches illegal chemical or biological weapons atrocities against its own people. As part of that push Cameron recalled parliament from its summer recess to get a vote in support of military action but the British Parliament has in a shock move just now voted against military action. It rather appears that Britain has simply left the ‘coalition of the willing’.

Cheers Jez XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

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“to s how ther e ar e major c ons equenc es for the As s ad r egime if it launc hes illegal c hemic
al or biologic al weapons atr oc ities agains t its own people” ?
So what if it was n’t As s ad ?…it’s all a bit too c onv ienient, a y ear to the day when O bama
talk s abot the “r ed line”, the UN ins pec tor s jus t happened to ar r iv e that day , the war
monger er s in the Wes t ar e look ing for an ex c us e to bomb Sy r ia and hey pr es to it lands
in their lap ?
I think the whole attac k is a s et up to tr y and fos ter bac k ing for a militar y s tr ik e…O
bama and his idiot fr iends lik e Camer on ar e going to tr igger a wor ld war . Do y ou r eally
think China and Rus s ia ar e going to s tand bac k and allow Sy r ia to bec ome another Ir aq or
Liby a ? http://www.wnd.c om/2013/08/v ideo­ s hows ­ r ebels ­ launc hing­ gas ­ attac k ­ in­ s y
r ia/#ME2c lwO luUr BWac c .99
Let’s giv e O bama another Nobel Peac e Pr iz e, he obv ious ly des er v es it…what a jok e he
tur ned out to be…Can we impeac h O bama?…y es we c an !
Har v .! @ Augus t 29, 2013, 8:40 pm

 

Im not s ur e O bama is ac tiv ely look ing to join in that war …… he may end up getting pulled
in…….. he may end up hav ing been pulled in by deliber ate manipulation……. but to be fair
…… i dont think they ar e k een to begin another Middle Eas t c ampaign …… they hav e been
pr etty r eluc tant up to now……. the Ar ab Spr ing does not s eem to hav e br ought US allies
to power and has s wept away s ome of the old c er tainties ……. Sy r ian r ebels I imagine look
lik e a pr etty poor bunc h of potential US allies …… if they c ome to power thats not gonna be
in US inter es ts ….. I do think O bama would r ather s tay out……. but feels weapons of mas s
des tr uc tion ar e a thr eat to Sy r ian people but als o to Is r aelis ………. he pr obabl;y
think s that s tuff s hould not jus t be allowed to bec ome us ed as par t of the nor m of the v
ile Sy r ian Conflic t……….. :­ /////////
Cheer s br o J ez XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

jez blog :­ ) ) XXX @ Augus t 30, 2013, 7:43 am
T hey put c or r upt nas ty dic tator s in power , they s ell ar ms to him, they s uc k the wealth
out of the c ountr y , they no longer want that r egime, they s tar t and financ e a des tabilis
ation of the c ountr y , they ar m gr oups to fight the s tate ( ev en to the ex tent of ar ming al
qaeda affiliated gr oups whic they s end US tr oops to fight agains t in neighbour ing c ountr ies
) , they s et up fals e flag ev ents to gain inter national s uppor t and when the c ountr y and
it’s people ar e dev es tated they s end in the Hallibur tons to c her r y pic k any luc r ativ e c
ontr ac ts to “r ebuild” the plac e.
Ir aq, Afghanis tan, Liby a and now Sy r ia…it’s all a big c on, y ou’r e being hoodwink ed. Shor
t ter m it’s about des tabiliz ing the r egion and tak ing the oil…long ter m it’s about a new
wor ld or der , to tur n the wor ld into r egions that ar e eas y to c ontr ol…a polic e s tate
that c ontr ols the wor ld.
People need to wak e up befor e it’s too late.
Har v .! @ Augus t 30, 2013, 10:03 am

 

It’s a tr iumph of the par liamentar y s y s tem. We need to k eep out of the war s in the Ar ab c
ountr ies . It c annot be up to us or ev en Amer ic a to polic e what happens in thos e c ountr ies
.
Mar k Br oughton @ Augus t 29, 2013, 8:42 pm
Yes in a way I think thats c ompletely r ight …… I als o k ind of wor r y for or dinar y folk s
dealing with the hor r or s unleas hed when ther e ar e no r ules . :­ / Cheer s J ez XX
jez blog :­ ) ) XXX @ Augus t 30, 2013, 7:31 am

G ood on Par liament, whils t what oc c ur r ed in Damas c us was undoubtedly hor r ific , we jus t
don’t hav e enough infor mation about it y et to go fly ing in feet fir s t, let’s hear fr om the
UN ins pec tor s befor e s tar ting lobbing c r uis e mis s iles at As s ad. Both s ides hav e c
ommitted v ile atr oc ities and I wouldn’t put it pas t the oppos ition to us ed c aptur ed WMD s
toc k s on its own people in a des per ate attempt to dr um up wes ter n s uppor t… a hor r ible
mes s that the Ar abs s hould s or t out thems elv es …
Cy r us the Vy r us … @ Augus t 30, 2013, 4:56 am
Yes its c er tainly not c lear that any mis s ile s tr ik e would end any of the s hiite unleas hed
in that par t of the wor ld……… and by joining in y ou will tak e s hiite as if u s tar ted it
or ar e s omehow r es pons ible to fix it…….. s till s tuff going down ther e is totally v ile
……. :­ ////////

Cheer s J ez XXXXX

jez blog :­ ) ) XXX @ Augus t 30, 2013, 7:34 am
Whils t k illing with depleted ur anium & white phos phor us is mor al and humanitar ian of c our s
e.. J ohn Har r is @ Augus t 30, 2013, 10:04 am

 
No k illing innoc ents us ing any ty pe of indis c r iminate weaponr y is equally imor al and
inhuman. But the mos t imor al thing to do is deliber ately tar get thos e innoc ents . F or c es
deliber ately us ing the s laughter of c ompletely innoc ent c hildr en and families as par t of
their des igned tac tic s ar e in my v iew ar e the mos t imor al and if they ar e us ing pois on
gas or ner v e agents etc they r eally ar e tak ing their imor al behav iour to indus tr ial lev
els . T her e is per haps s omthing uniquely ter r ible about Saddam Hus s ein’s attac k s on
the Kur dis h c ities . It would be ter r ible if things on that s c ale s tar t happening in Sy r
ia. Lets hope they do not.

Cheer s Br o J ez XXXXXXXXXXXX

jez blog :­ ) ) XXX @ Augus t 30, 2013, 2:13 pm
http://www.bbc .c o.uk /news /wor ld­ 23892594
jez blog :­ ) ) XXX @ Augus t 30, 2013, 3:20 pm

 

Yeah…how many innoc ents hav e been k illed as s o c alled “c ollater al damage” dur ing US dr
one s tr ik es , at the lates t es timate, it was a damn s ight mor e than wer e ac tually k illed
in 9/11 but that’s ok ay , the US us es the pr ec is e s ame jus tific ation that As s ad would hav
e us ed when they c ommit ac ts of mas s , ar bitr ar y mur der …they ar e in the gener al v ic
inity of s ome ter r or is ts , s o they des er v e ev er y thing that is c oming to them. Entir
ely illegal, and it mak es O bama’s r ighteous mor al indignation ev en the mor e s ic k ening,
what a gutles s hy poc r ite, I hope that, if they do go in for s omething foolhar dy and r ec k
les s , it goes dis as tr ous ly wr ong for them…
Che… @ Augus t 31, 2013, 10:38 am

 

er i s or t of k now what u mean and y et I r ather hope if they attempt to do any thing it is a
wonder ful s uc c es s and no one dies … c hildr en get to play and lear n and gr ow up … I s
us pec t it will not wor k out lik e that……. but I my s elf will not hope for the wor s t ev en
if Amer ic a does inter v ene … why would I ? ……. I agr ee it might well be bes t to s tay
out…… but then we need to fac e the fac t that s laughter will c er tainly c ontinue …..
hor r ible s laughter by gov er nment for c es agains t their own people and hor r ible
s ec tar ian s laughter wher e people fr om differ ent ethnic identity ar e mur der ed by fantatic
s …….. s adly if the US inter v enes the lik ely hood is s laughter will s till jus t c
ontinue …… s ome with an Amer ic an fac e………. I don’t hav e a v er y optomis
tic feeling about any thing happening in Sy r ia and Wes ter n ac tion and inac tion will pr
obably jus t lead to mor e s laughter s o bes t to s tay out I gues s .

Cheer s J ez XXX
jez blog :­ ) ) XXX @ Augus t 31, 2013, 11:04 am

in 1996 Madeleine Albr ight s aid on national T V that 500,000 Ir aqi c hildr en dead fr om s anc
tions was “wor th it” T his is the k ind of madnes s that s atur ates US politic s and will lead
the wor ld to y et another s ens eles s war …
http://www.y outube.c om/watc h?v =F bIX1CP9qr 4
Har v .! @ Augus t 31, 2013, 11:00 am

 

Yes s anc tions lik e war its elf s eem to tar get the mos t v ulner able :­ (

jez blog :­ ) ) XXX @ Augus t 31, 2013, 11:06 am
http://www.y outube.c om/watc h?v =XQ F fhqUBac g

Har v .! @ Augus t 31, 2013, 4:54 pm

 
Yes well thats s or t of r ight…. ther e is c etainly a fair bit of tr ue s tuff floating about
in all this …….. but in my humble opinion this s tuff is n’t par t of a gr and plan …. the pr
ojec tion fr om this is pos s ibly that As s ad is s omehow in the pay of the CIA to dr op pois on
gas or the Sy r ian c iv il war is manufac tur ed by Amer ic a…… but this in my opiniion is jus
t not r ight. T hey ar e bus y doing that s tuff on their own hundr eds of thous ands ar e lik ely
to die if Amer ic a inter v enes or not. O f c our s e ther e ar e unfor s een c ir c ums tanc es
that ar is e fr om any potential and all pas t meddling…….. funding the enemies of the Sov iets
in the pas t leads to the moder n Is lamic ter r or of now …… y es …… but not by des ign
……… funding Saddam agains t Ir an ……… leav es a dic tator able to inv ade Kuwait
…….. but not by des ign……….. thos e ar e unfor s een long ter m outc omes of s hor t ter
m polic y ……. Hilar y Clinton in that c lip is dis c us s ing the r eality of the unfor s een
outc omes not the polic y of c r eating Is lamic ter r or by des ign. Yes funding Bin Laden
to us e ter r or and guer illa tac tic s agains t the Sov iets helps him to unex petedly
bec ome the leader of ter r or agains t the US. But thats not why it was done, that is the
totally unfor s een outc ome. Dur ing the c old war no one ac tually thought the Sov iets would c
ollaps e and that Is lamic fundamentalis m c ould c ome out of thos e Afghan c av es and bec ome a
for c e in Somalia or Agler ia nev er mind br ing ter r or to Saudi Ar abai and New Yor k ??? T hes
e wer e not des igned outc omes jus t dis as ter ous ly unfor tunate fallout….. unfor s een
fallout that y es has a dir ec t r elations hip with pas t ac tions of US polic y .

Cheer s br o J ez XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

jez blog :­ ) ) XXX @ September 1, 2013, 6:34 am

[r eply ]
I think it is by des ign, hav e a watc h of this inter v iew with G enenr al Wes ley Clar k in 2007
http://www.y outube.c om/watc h?v =6ARihMr x djU
It’s not about pas t ac tions of the US, it’s c ur r ent ac tions and ac tions they want to tak e
in the futur e…all empir es c ome to and end, what we’r e s eeing is the begining of the end of
the US…let’s jus t hope they don’t tr y and s tar t WWIII fir s t.
Har v .! @ September 1, 2013, 11:14 am

 

T he Amer ic an Centur y is ov er y es ……. do people in the Pentagon s pend all day c oming up
with s c enar ios for inv ading potential enemies …….? Yes !!! thats their job…….. they
hav e plans for war with Ir an war with Sy r ia, Nor th Kor ea bla bla……… that r eally is
their entir e job ….. bas ic ally they s pend all day on thes e ques tions ……. if this
happens What would we do? After 9/11 the Bus h doc tr ine was bor n… the ‘Ax is of
ev il’ was public ly defined……. did they hav e plans that c ould be ex ec uted to inv ade all
thos e c ountr ies ……? O f c our s e…….. does that mean they will definetly do it? O f c
our s e not…….. does that mean thos e c ountr ies ar e defined as enemies that might in the
futur e get heav y duty Amer ic an inter v ention y es …….. on the the other hand nothing at
all might happen they did inv ade Afghan and Ir aq but none of the other s …….. they need to s
tar t bombing their own c itiz ens lik e G adaffi or dr op pois on gas lik e As s ad ………..
but again its bec aus e Amer ic a is r eac ting to things ……. it r ather depends what goes
down in the futur e

Cheer s J ez XXXXXXXXXXXXX
jez blog :­ ) ) XXX @ September 1, 2013, 5:28 pm

 

Lik e I s ay I don’t think this is the plan fr om y ear s bac k …….. mor e lik e the outc ome
of ev ents …… funnily enough I don’t think O bama r eally wants to bomb in Sy r ia …… the
pr oblem for him is he was being pus hed to do s omething by Camer on and the F r enc h for months
……. s o finally he agr ees onc e the r ed line has been c r os s ed 14 times
……. then s uddenly O bama hav ing dec lar ed Camer on is n’t c oming any mor e s o O bama is
left is olated as the one

who wants ac tion ……. Congr es s and the Amer ic an people don’t want this …… not if u
believ e the number s of this moment ……. if O bama had wanted to jus t s hoot ac r os s the
bows as it wher e …. he s hould hav e jus t done it…….. all the ar ms and s hips etc ar e r
eady …… but i think he does not want to do it …… he c er tainly does not want to be is
olated and doing this s tuff ……… lik e Bus h befor e him ……. no he wants to at leas t br
ing Congr es s with him……. if they ar e not c oming he will not do it …….. I s imply don’t
think he r eally wanted to do it in the fir s t plac e ……. he had s tupidly v er bally made c
hemic al weapons us e a r ed line……. one he hoped the As s ad r egime would not be s av age
enough to ac tually c r os s ….. it was s uppos ed to be a v er bal deter r ent to s top it
happening…. he did not want to be her e for c ed to ac t to bac k up his wor ds with c r uis e
mis s iles …….. but in the end the Sy r ian Regime ar e s av agely k illing people in their
thous ands and now ev en us ing c hemic al weapons to k ill thous ands at a time
……. O bama did feel he per haps may be s hould do s omething ……. but I r eally don’t think
he is r eally that ac tiv ely inter es ted in going ahead now …… es pec ially now egger on in c
hief Dav id Camer on is no longer tak ing par t …….. by the time the day s to ac t hav e melted
away ……. I r eally don’t think he is gonna get the v otes in Congr es s …….. I gues s he
might……… onc e the s hoc k of that attac k dis s ipates …… I think pr obably the Amer ic
ans will not ac t
…….. I dunno I gues s its about 50/50 …… may be ev en 60/40 agains t …… whic h is pr
obably good fr om mos t v iewpoints …… Well good unles s y ou ar e a Sy r ian whos e family
dies in the nex t big us e of c hemic al weapons bec aus e As s ads for c es think they c an us
e them with impunity ……… I s ee the As s ad r egime is now taunting O bama with that ‘T he
end of Amer ic an Power ‘……” T he big r etr eat” liter ally lik e they only under s tand for c
e ……… they do not r es pec t diplomac y or human r ights …….. only for c e ……… s o
if they think non is c oming well then they will be fr ee to us e their own for c e without r es tr
aint :­ /////////////

Cheer s br o J ez XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
jez blog :­ ) ) XXX @ September 1, 2013, 7:56 pm

 

http://pr es s tv .c om/detail/2013/04/01/296014/c nn­ lies ­ about­ ir an­ s y r ia­ ex r epor ter
/ J oin the dots J ez , join the dots .

Har v .! @ September 2, 2013, 7:25 am
Har v this is lik e the offic ial news s er v ic e of Ir an…….. its O K to r ead this s tuff
but y ou need to be c lear Ir an is an autoc r atic r eligious polic e s tate wher e pr oper pr
es s fr eedom is not toller ated……. they of c our s e hav e a point of v iew that y ou c an
pr oper ly tak e into ac c ount……… but this is not a r eliable news s our c e…… they
allege CNN tak es money fr om the US gov er nment…… Pr es s T V is fully financ ed by the Ir
anian gov er nment ……. CNN is a bit of a wobbly news s our c e not bec aus e it is s o c or r
upt but bec aus e it is s o dull and does not do enough for eign r epor ting …… its not as good
as the BBC ( paid for by the Br it G ov er nment) or ev en IT N ( Paid for by IT V adv er tis ing r
ev enue) but hey its way mor e r eliable than Pr es s T V of Ir an …….. :­ ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) )
) ) XXXXXXXXXXX

Cheer s br o J ez XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
jez blog :­ ) ) XXX @ September 2, 2013, 5:16 pm

 

Pr es s T V of Ir an is jus t that link , do a google s ear c h on that s tor y , plenty of other
media outlets r epor ted on that.
You’r e mis s ing the point…ther e’s a r eas on s o many no longer tr us t what they hear in
mains tr eam es tablis hed news …they ‘v e been c aught ly ing, they ‘r e c ov er ing s tor ies
they ‘r e told to c ov er and they r egur gitate pr es s r eleas es as news without inv es
tigation or ques tion.
G ov er nments hav e a his tor y of ly ing, c ov er ing up, dis infor ming to s teer public opinion
in a c er tain way .
With s o many things not adding up, with s o many holes in offic ial ex planations people ar e s
tar ting to wak e up to the fac t that s omething els e is going on…whether y ou s ee it or not
up to y ou.
As I s aid join the dots .
Har v .! @ September 2, 2013, 6:07 pm

 

Civ ilians hav e been deliber ately tar geted in ev er y war s inc e 1914 ­ if not befor e ­ though
I under s tand “c ollater al damage” is the moder n euphemis m. All this “unintended c ons equenc
e” apologetic s for inter v ention is pr etty feeble minded, the of c our s e the USA has a plan
for the Middle Eas t. As k y our s elf who benefits fr om the c hemic al attac k , giv en the
public ly dec lar ed “Red Line”? Be c ir c ums pec t too about the “tr iumph of the par
liamentar y s y s tem” ­ the oppos ition only want s ome k ind of “pr oof” ( I ex pec t
we hav e the r ec eipts ) befor e agr eeing to bomb and inev itably mur der mor e innoc ents ­
for the bes t pos s ible r eas ons of c our s e.. T her e ar e at leas t 4 differ ent agendas

( s or r y I k now pr oper jour nalis m is us ually unpopular her e) ac c or ding to Pepe Es c obar
http://tiny ur l.c om/p7wbr 3v
J ohn Har r is @ September 1, 2013, 9:17 am

Yes of c our s e it’s eas ier to do nothing I think its r ight this time too but be c lear innoc
ents will die in their thous ands people die in v ile war s ev en when the US and USA ar e not c
ombatants … Look at the Congo people hav e died in their millions ther e no one has been bombed
by US mis s iles …. I don’t think c hemic al attac k s will be s topped by c r uis e mis s iles
… But the fac t that they ar e not s topped is not good news … In the end the c iv il war in Is
lam and other dr iv er s in the Sy r ian c onflic t is bey ond being s topped by a c ouple of c r
uis e mis s iles or any Wes ter n s anc tions or what hav e y ou….. :­ /
Cheer s br o J ez X
J ez blog IPhone London @ September 1, 2013, 10:01 am
Her e is a good one for y ou J ohn we liter ally do hav e the inv oic es :­ /
http://www.daily r ec or d.c o.uk /news /uk ­ wor ld­ news /r ev ealed­ br itain­ s old­ ner v e­
gas ­ 2242520
Cheer s J ez XXXXXXXXXX

jez blog :­ ) ) XXX @ September 2, 2013, 5:02 pm
Q uite an ac hiev ement for a Pr es ident who made it his mis s ion to hav e a “c ompletely new”
appr oac h to the Middle Eas t..to hav e pis s ed
off abs olutely ev er y body ..inc luding all of Amer ic a’s tr aditional allies in the r
egion..may be the Nobel peac e pr iz e was a little pr ematur e!!
F idel @ September 2, 2013, 10:47 am

T hat peac e pr iz e was alway s nutz …….. O bama is pos s ibly about to mak e them c r
inge……. mind u they lov e to be a little pr ematur e with thos e things ……. a c ouple of
good ones awar ded to Yas s er and Rabin for br inging peac e in Pales tine/Is r ael…….. mind
hav e been a tad pr ematur e………
Cheer s J ez XXXXXXX
jez blog :­ ) ) XXX @ September 2, 2013, 11:08 am
I’v e alway s admir ed the v er ac ity and integr ity of Pr es s T V, es pec ially s ome of thos e
models of unimpar tiality and ov er all r eas onablenes s
s uc h as G alloway , Cher ie Blair ‘s s is ter Lor r aine Booth ( lik e father lik e daughter )
and that nutty bir d whos e name I’v e for gotten that was k idnapped by the T aliban and got her
dr iv er /fix er k illed as a r es ult..gr eat bunc h on unimpar tial guy s and gals ..lotta wor k
for oppr es s iv e theoc r ac ies !!
Leon T x x @ September 3, 2013, 2:02 am
I lov e a bit of G alloway ………. u k now its all dec ent and Res pec t ful and Indefatigable
…….oh y eah……… G oebbels fr om G or bals @ September 3, 2013, 6:55 am
Appar ently ac c or ding to a talk ing head fr om s ome defenc e ins titute at the Been, Sy r ia’s
air for c e is in a par tic ular ly bad way following two y ear s of c onflic t, and any s tr ik e
tar geting As s ads air power c ould pos s ibly be a game c hanger .. May be bomber Bar ac k has a
plan after all…
Lav er enti Ber ia x x @ September 3, 2013, 7:31 am
I meant “Beeb” us eles s s pellc hec k er I will hav e y ou SHO T !!
Lav er enti Ber ia x x x @ September 3, 2013, 7:33 am

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